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[MettaMaid]

[Anthony]

The water is beginning to simmer and caution is required - this may be a test situation for all.
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[MettaMaid]

"A woman is like a Teabag: you never know how strong she is, until she gets into hot water."



Gotcha, Anthony....
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[sushil_yadav]

[merry mitchell quaker]

I think it "proves" that a lot of people have a lot more tolerance than one might naturally assume to be warranted.
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[MettaMaid]

(He's also still avoiding answering the questions, by the way..... )
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[Shay]

[MettaMaid]

...Especially as not being a Quaker, you are technically a 'Guest'.

As I am well aware, I am.

_/l\_
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"Hatred never ceases through hatred, but hatred ceases by love alone. This is the essence of the ancient and eternal law."

[Ailsa]

Disregarding whether your "articles" are spam or not, Sushil, your tone is very aggressive and unpleasant.

I really do not see why you feel the need to come onto a Quaker board and try to pick fights.

I, for one, would be very grateful if you would either moderate your tone or desist.
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[Shay]

[Kiahanie]

One more guest checking in....

sushil_yadav--

There are so many worthwhile things to do and read that I don't get around to them all, so I kinda have to filter things that come my way. I look at anonymity, qualifications to write about the topic, references to source material when factual claims are made, etc, before even beginning a lengthy treatise -if, indeed, I begin at all.

Then maybe I read a little and look for ease of reading, comprehensibility, internal connectedness, connectedness with the world as I understand it.

After seeing the discussion here, I actually read read some of your initial post. I found there were too many jumps in logic for me to follow, that they were not bridged later, there are too many non-obvious assertions of fact or analysis that are not supported by either reference or reasoning. I remained unsure of the point you were trying to make in your paper, and less sure of what I was trying to accomplish by reading it.

I suspect maybe perhaps others had a similar experience.

I think the chances of your getting the point across would be improved if you took the time to provide real (not canned or aggressive) responses to questions people may have about your paper. In my own case, I have often found peer review helpful in formulating my analysis and conclusions in ways that make them more accessible to readers. (I am always clear to myself and sometimes I forget that I may not be clear to others .) I think that if people are interested enough to ask questions, that the first hurdle in informing one's readership is cleared.

There are many disadvantages to communicating in this medium, but some distinct advantages are the opportunity for thoughtful reflection before replying, the ability to respond coherently and in detail to questions, and the often collegial atmosphere of boards with long-time posters. I urge you to avail yourself of these opportunities.

I would also suggest a beginning paragraph or two (or three) that would serve as an abstract, stating the thesis you are presenting, the supporting framework, and the methodology used. That would help your readers get a map of where they are heading when they read your document.
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[noachian]

If my analysis serves me, this philosophical model is similar to that of Leonardo Boff. I did a diagram of it as a project...the industrial vs natural societies. For all those interested in this philosophical model, I recommed the reading of Leonardo Boff's 'St Francis of Assisi'. He uses Saint Francis of Assisi as the perfect life according to nature. I would also recommend the reading of Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, since the Emporer does write some on 'life according to nature'.
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[sushil_yadav]

[sushil_yadav]

[Hope]

Hi Sushil_yadav,

I can very much relate to the passion you feel about this topic ("Industrial Society destroys Mind and Environment") because I feel v. similar,
hence I can also relate to the anger, frustration a. sadness when realising how far off we humans are from where we shoud be and how ignorant we are regarding our sins and how unwilling to change our ways
[that is generally speaking for the whole human race rather than individuals].

I appreciate your paper very much -there's lots of mind-food in it.

However, we should "take heed" that we don't become embittered with anger a. frustration as this would stand in our way to reach others and achieve any change.
I'm finding it unfortunate that you spoil your (assumedly) very just intentions and good course by your aggressive tone.
It is not serving you any good, as people might not only turn their minds against you as a person/poster but also against the contents of your posts -and that would be very sad and counterproductive.

People on this board (including Shay!) have tried to give you very helpful advice. I wished you could take them on board -it would help your endeavours so much.
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Light & Love
Hope
xx