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Spyridon
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 Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: Women’s Service in the Church: The Biblical Basis |
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A woman gave the sermon on Sunday. I was holding back tears, because she was speaking profound truths of God. It dawned on me like never before, whether you have a penis does not qualify you to preach God's word. Please consider the Biblical basis for women's service in the church:
Women’s Service in the Church: The Biblical Basis
by the Bishop of Durham, Dr N. T. Wright
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Women_Service_Church.htm
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Romans 16:7
Greet Andronicus and Junia, my relatives who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was.
Acts 21:9
He had four unmarried daughters who prophesied.
Acts 18:18
Paul stayed on in Corinth for some time. Then he left the believers and sailed for Syria, accompanied by Priscilla and Aquila. Before he sailed, he had his hair cut off at Cenchreae because of a vow he had taken.
Romans 16
1 I commend to you our sisterPhoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae. 2 I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of his people and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been the benefactor of many people, including me. 3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in Christ Jesus. 4 They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them.
1 Corinthians 16:19
The churches in the province of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does the church that meets at their house.
Philippians 4:2-3
2 I plead with Euodia and I plead with Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 3 Yes, and I ask you, my true companion,help these women since they have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my co-workers, whose names are in the book of life.
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Gracie
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I'm not sure of your purpose in posting this here, as Quakers don't quibble with the idea of women speaking in meeting or preaching in churches.
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Spyridon
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| Gracie wrote: |
| I'm not sure of your purpose in posting this here, as Quakers don't quibble with the idea of women speaking in meeting or preaching in churches. |
When someone judges you for your Quaker faith, you can be equipped with Scripture to defend the ordination of women. When I was in high school, I ignorantly believed that the Quaker church in my town was in error for having a female pastor. |
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Gracie
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Spyridon wrote: |
| Gracie wrote: |
| I'm not sure of your purpose in posting this here, as Quakers don't quibble with the idea of women speaking in meeting or preaching in churches. |
When someone judges you for your Quaker faith, you can be equipped with Scripture to defend the ordination of women. When I was in high school, I ignorantly believed that the Quaker church in my town was in error for having a female pastor. |
Oh, I see your point!
Although if anyone challenged me, I wouldn't use scripture, I'd use the measure of Light in all persons. Using scripture with literalists is a loser's game.
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Spyridon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Gracie wrote: |
| Spyridon wrote: |
| Gracie wrote: |
| I'm not sure of your purpose in posting this here, as Quakers don't quibble with the idea of women speaking in meeting or preaching in churches. |
When someone judges you for your Quaker faith, you can be equipped with Scripture to defend the ordination of women. When I was in high school, I ignorantly believed that the Quaker church in my town was in error for having a female pastor. |
Oh, I see your point!
Although if anyone challenged me, I wouldn't use scripture, I'd use the measure of Light in all persons. Using scripture with literalists is a loser's game. |
While the measure of Light in all persons might not appeal to literalists, Scriptures which clearly show women preaching in the New Testament might. There are theologically conservative denominations that ordain women.
Passages in Scripture which forbid women from peaching in the church should be read according to their historical contexts, with the original language in mind. English Bibles render 1 Timothy 2 as "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man." In translations of non-biblical works, the Greek word these render as "have authority" is rendered instead as "tyrannize" or even "brutalize":
http://books.google.com/books?id=m6jECGnEHvkC&pg=PT227&lpg=PT227&dq=%221+timothy+2%22+tyrannize&source=bl&ots=6u7U9J8Vq5&sig=hSNW2JM0_gU7Jnv1oZW_ycCYOK0&hl=en&ei=_wkDS6qxN4_uswOxyJG5Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%221%20timothy%202%22%20tyrannize&f=false
According to early church tradition, Junia was one of the seventy apostles apointed by Christ.
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michaeldavidjay
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There are no literalists... if there were, the argument would be easy -- scripture clearly supports women preaching -- and refusing to read the very next chapter, because an entire section disagrees with your understanding of a sentence fragment is NOT being a literalist.
Barclay appeals to scripture in Proposition 10, section 27 of his Apology. http://www.qhpress.org/texts/barclay/apology/prop10.html
Another good read on the topic, is of course Margret Fell-Fox's essay on the topic http://www.qhpress.org/texts/fell.html
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