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Anthony
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 1542
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: Human rights |
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I like to watch Judge Judy, who is very popular in the UK, but I am appalled at the freedom she has to speak to those before her bench in whatever manner she wishes. I know that for even a fraction of what she says to those before her would not be acceptable in the UK. Are there no human rights in the US that prohibit a public servant from publicly humiliating those before them? How can a civilised county allow civil servants to be so personal and downright offensive to those supplicant to them? I watched her today humiliate a lady who said she was on medication for mental health problems, she verbally attacked her saying the most discriminatory and unacceptable things to her about her condition. What does this say about America that it can denigrate those with no power who are simply trying to rectify a problem in the small claims court - a legal court and not a theatre or arena with victims to be verbally assaulted? Please don't tell me not to watch it as that's not the point but why is she allowed to get away with it? Not only that but she is paid millions for doing it for worldwide TV!  |
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Kiahanie

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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"Judge Judy" is entertainment, not real law in a real courtroom. (Judith used to be a judge, though.) The cases, however, are real, and the participants have agreed to have their case decided by Judge Judy on television rather than by a real judge in a court of law. So they have agreed to whatever verbal abuse she chooses to hand out.
That said, judges have a great deal of latitude in addressing defendants, but judicial ethics, libel and slander laws still apply. _________________ "There is a field out beyond right and wrong. I'll meet you there." --Jellaludin Rumi |
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Shay

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| She's not a real judge (now) any more than Jerry Springer is a real community facilitator. |
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Pulpculture

Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 564 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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What about Jerry's "Final Thought"?
Powerful stuff in the right hands _________________ .
I said don't forget Burma! |
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Anthony
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Shay wrote: |
| She's not a real judge (now) any more than Jerry Springer is a real community facilitator. |
| Kiahanie wrote: |
| "Judge Judy" is entertainment, not real law in a real courtroom. |
I know that JJ is theatre and that she plays to the camera and maybe those in her court have agreed to appear in front of the cameras (although, I understood that when a country decides to film court cases the participants have no choice but to be filmed - I understand this is being proposed in Scotland)
Now, I feel sure that for most of us in the UK who believe this fiasco - if that's what it is - it will be a real eye-opener to hear JJ is a farce. Let me get this right, what we see on our TV when JJ is a residing judge in an American small claim court is NOT real? That it is a courtroom stage-set with no power, let alone reality, in law? If this is correct it would alleviate my concerns although put me off JJ.  |
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Anthony
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Following the enlightening feedback about JJ I have carried out my own research on the program. It seems there have been numerous complaints along the same lines as my own: the show does give a bad impression of the US small claims judicial system and we in the UK don't don't question whether it is 'real' or not. I don't know if I should tell my 80+ aunty as she is a great fan and records all of the shows. I wouldn't like to disillion her.
I simply could not understand how on earth JJ got away with being such a bully in a US court. I guess many of us in the UK got the wrong idea from this program but I feel sure that even those that sign contracts are either daft, stupid or from another planet not to know how they will be treated.
Wikipedia was helpful:
While the cases on Judge Judy are actual small claims court cases, it is not a public court of law (like all court TV shows) but rather a private arbitration court, and all parties must sign contracts agreeing to arbitration under Sheindlin.
I really can't get over that I fell for JJ even though I understand that there is a disclaimer at the end of the show saying that it is not a real court.
It seems that Judith Sheindlin did not even have a licence to practice in California.
Just for the interest: Since the show started1996 it has led the ratings in such themed shows and has been nominated 13 times for Daytime Emmy Awards. It has run for over 17 seasons and Judy's contract has been renewed until 2015, running into 19 shows. She even has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. It seems very popular in America even though it is fake. |
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lkindr
Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Location: St. Charles, MO
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Posted: Fri Jul 8, 2011 6:39 am Post subject: Abuse in Court |
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* I presume that the show's creators or producers wanted the viewers to hear the judge's thoughts, so as to help explain her rulings, which also makes the cases more interesting. So, if you pretend that her abusive comments are her private thoughts, the shows are probably then much like a real small claims court.
* All that said, I feel that courts and governments in general in the U.S. and probably most of the world are highly abusive and do not protect human rights nearly enough. That's why I started my thread, Consensus to End Power Abuse.
* Can anyone list some of the specific abuses of their governments? _________________ Good Day! |
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Kiahanie

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Posted: Fri Jul 8, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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The list is too long for a quick answer. I'll be back to this when I have more time. _________________ "There is a field out beyond right and wrong. I'll meet you there." --Jellaludin Rumi |
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