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JohnOR3



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Music Reply with quote

Are there any songs with Quaker themes ? Maybe sung at meeting Houses or just some song that reminds you of God's Light within.
Please post your favorites and let's talk about the meaning and Joy of spirituality in Music.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure of the title, but "Jesus, Be the Centre."

Traditionally, Quakers have been very wary of music as it has been used, and is still used to provoke or even counterfeit the emotions that accompany a sense of the presence of the Spirit without providing a basis or atmosphere for that presence. Music is a very powerful tool and we are right to be wary of it. Having said that, it is also a wonderful expression of the feelings that accompany a real sense of love for God and our fellow humans as well as our sense of awe at the wonderful things of this world we live in.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most well known Quaker song I know of is called the "George Fox Song". The lyrics go:

Quote:
There's a light that is shining in the heart of a man,
It's the light that was shining when the world began.
There's a light that is shining in the Turk and the Jew
And a light that is shining, friend, in me and in you.

Chorus:
Walk in the light, wherever you may be.
Walk in the light, wherever you may be.
'In my old leather breeches and my shaggy, shaggy locks,
I am walking in the glory of the light,' said Fox!


With a book and a steeple, with a bell and a key
They would bind it forever but they can't (said he).
Oh, the book it will perish and the steeple it will fall,
But the light will be shining at the end of it all.

'If we give you a pistol, will you fight for the Lord?'
'But you can't kill the Devil with a gun or a sword!'
'Will you swear on the Bible?' 'I will not!' said he,
'For the truth is more holy than the book to me.'

'There's an ocean of darkness and I drown in the night
Till I come through the darkness to the ocean of light,
For the light is forever and the light it is free,
And I walk in the glory of the light,' said he.

by Sydney Carter 1964

The tune for the song is somewhat similar to the Lord of the Dance tune, though is not the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is awesome Chriss, thanks for sharing it. Do you know of a CD that I could look for with that song on it?


Chriss wrote:
The most well known Quaker song I know of is called the "George Fox Song". The lyrics go:

Quote:
There's a light that is shining in the heart of a man,
It's the light that was shining when the world began.
There's a light that is shining in the Turk and the Jew
And a light that is shining, friend, in me and in you.

Chorus:
Walk in the light, wherever you may be.
Walk in the light, wherever you may be.
'In my old leather breeches and my shaggy, shaggy locks,
I am walking in the glory of the light,' said Fox!


With a book and a steeple, with a bell and a key
They would bind it forever but they can't (said he).
Oh, the book it will perish and the steeple it will fall,
But the light will be shining at the end of it all.

'If we give you a pistol, will you fight for the Lord?'
'But you can't kill the Devil with a gun or a sword!'
'Will you swear on the Bible?' 'I will not!' said he,
'For the truth is more holy than the book to me.'

'There's an ocean of darkness and I drown in the night
Till I come through the darkness to the ocean of light,
For the light is forever and the light it is free,
And I walk in the glory of the light,' said he.

by Sydney Carter 1964

The tune for the song is somewhat similar to the Lord of the Dance tune, though is not the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't 'The Seekers' a Quaker band?

'Morning Town Ride' and all that!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At one of the churches I used to attend, the hymnal included a Quaker hymn that was a favorite in that congregation. I found the words on the Net:

MY LIFE FLOWS ON IN ENDLESS SONG

My life flows on in endless song;
Above earthís lamentation
I hear the sweet though far off hymn
That hails a new creation:
Through all the tumult and the strife
I hear the music ringing;
It finds an echo in my souló
How can I keep from singing?

What though my joys and comforts die?
The Lord my Savior liveth;
What though the darkness gather round!
Songs in the night He giveth:
No storm can shake my inmost calm
While to that refuge clinging;
Since Christ is Lord of Heavín and earth,
How can I keep from singing?

I lift mine eyes; the cloud grows thin;
I see the blue above it;
And day by day this pathway smoothes
Since first I learned to love it:
The peace of Christ makes fresh my heart,
A fountain ever springing:
All things are mine since I am Hisó
How can I keep from singing?

Robert Lowery is listed as the composer; a footnote in the hymnal we used said this was an old Quaker hymn, but I am not sure from which Quaker tradition.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Let it shine! Reply with quote

At our meeting we're experimenting with a half-hour of singing prior to meeting for worship once a month. The challenge is to find songs that everyone knows, as we have a few birthright Quakers and then convinced Quakers from various religious backgrounds (or no religious background).

Right now, we're juggling the collections Worship in Song

http://www.quakerbooks.org/worship_in_song_clothbound.php

Rise Up Singing

http://www.quakersong.org/

and Songs of the Spirit (FGC -- not sure if it's in print anymore, but there may be some lying around your meeting somewhere), as a few copies of each have surfaced in and around the meeting. We choose songs from each of them that members might know. Rise Up Singing isn't a hymnal per se, but has hundreds of folksongs, spirituals, etc.

"The George Fox Song" is in the first two books. There are other songs also: "The Lucretia Mott Song" (to give equal time to the ladies Smile ), as well and others expressly written by/for Quakers. I haven't learned them yet, but I'm getting there.

While it's not a Quaker song necessarily (I believe it's an old African American spiritual), at our meeting we're very fond of "This Little Light of Mine:"

This little light of mine
I'm gonna let it shine;
This little light of mine
I'm gonna let it shine;
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.

Hide it under a bushel? No!
I'm gonna let it shine;
Hide it under a bushel? No!
I'm gonna let it shine;
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine., etc. (It's in Rise Up Singing)

Easy to sing and lends itself to spontaneous new verses. Light, spontaneity... what could be more quakerly? Very Happy

We also like "Morning Has Broken." Lot's of people know it from the old Cat Stevens (now Yusuf Islam) version, and the words are in all the above books. Another very nice one that I really love, and it's easy to learn, too, is the "Prayer of St. Francis" by Sebastian Temple (almost verbatim the prayer attributed to the saint of Assisi). Words are in Rise Up Singing and Songs of the Spirit:

Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there is hatred let me bring your love;
Where there is injury your pardon, Lord;
And where there's doubt true faith in you.

Refrain:
Oh, Master grant that I may never seek
So much to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love with all my soul.

Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there's despair in life let me bring hope;
Where there is darkness, only light;
And where there's sadness, ever joy.

Refrain

Make me a channel of your peace.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
In giving to all men that we receive;
And in dying that we're born to eternal life.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The experts generally agree that My Life Flows on in Endless Song is falsely attributed as an old Quaker hymn. It appears to date from before Quakers sang hymns. But it definitely is a Quaker favorite.

Sydney Carter hymns tend also to be Quaker favorites. He was not a Quaker but a "friend of the Friends" who identified with much of what Friends stand for (he was a CO, for example).

Old Shaker hymns like 'Tis a Gift to Be Simple are also popular among Friends. Shakers were not Quakers, but are sort of distant cousins.

John Greenleaf Whittier was a Quaker. His works were written as poems, but some of them have been set to music and become hymns.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnOR3 wrote:
That is awesome Chriss, thanks for sharing it [George Fox song]. Do you know of a CD that I could look for with that song on it?


Yeah, it's a great song. No, don't know about a CD with it on. But the "Worship in Song" songbooks (which include sheet music) are at most meeting houses. And the "Rise Up Singing" CDs (that Barbara referred you to) sound like they have it.

wsamuel wrote:
Sydney Carter hymns tend also to be Quaker favorites. He was not a Quaker but a "friend of the Friends" who identified with much of what Friends stand for (he was a CO, for example).


What does "CO" mean?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:

What does "CO" mean?


It stands for "Commanding Officer." Wink

Ok, in context it stands for conciencious objector.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duh! Thanks. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 7, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsamuel wrote:
The experts generally agree that My Life Flows on in Endless Song is falsely attributed as an old Quaker hymn. It appears to date from before Quakers sang hymns. But it definitely is a Quaker favorite...


I did some further checking and found that Robert Lowery was indeed ordained a minister in the Baptist faith. None of the resources I was able to locate indicated he or any members of his immediate family were members of the Society of Friends.

Interestingly enough, he was born in Philadelphia in the early 19th century and served a great deal of his ministry in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. No doubt the faith of Friends had some impact on his world view.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 8, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm disappointed to find out that "My Life Flows On In Endless Song" is not actually a Quaker hymn!

I love that song and I find it very moving.

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